10-page Papers in Drop-ins

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10-page Papers in Drop-ins 

 

            The absolute, scariest, worst thing to handle while doing drop-ins is the ten page paper. This does not happen all of the time but will most likely happen during the busiest time of your shift. The good news is that after you do the first one, the rest get easier. The bad news is that you have to do the first one! In fact, I remember the first time this happened to me.

            I had almost made it through the semester without helping a student with a paper longer than five pages. I was working the afternoon shift and had just finished with a student, when another student logged-in on the computer. So, I signed-in for that student and went over to the table. That is when it happened!

            After the initial introductions, I asked the student what he needed help with. In front of me was a ten page paper, followed by a request for help with grammar and the flow of the paper. I looked around to gauge how much time I could spend with the student. There were now four other students waiting, according to the computer, so I knew that I should not give more than ten to fifteen minutes.

            Upon this realization, I asked when the paper was due. Of course, it was due the next morning at 8 am! I said, “Ok” and got started. I first read the introduction in order to get the feel of what he was writing about and to check his thesis. I then read the first sentence of every body paragraph so that I could check that his topic sentences went along with his thesis. I finished by reading his conclusion. This was to make sure that his summary went along with what I felt was the topic of the paper. I ended our time by telling him what I thought were good points about his paper. For example, I really liked his thesis and made sure I told him. I also gave him some feedback about common grammar mistakes I found and what he could have done a little better with his topic sentences. I then explained to him the importance of appointments with papers this long. I also told him what the WC Drop-In is for. He thanked me and went on his way.

            By reading his paper this way, I was able to check all of the important global issues and look for common grammatical errors. There is no way to do the whole paper in that amount of time, so don’t sweat it! By relaxing and using some advice from my experience, your first ten page paper will be over with and you can move past this super-scary experience.

 

- Paige B.


 

The problem?  A student signs in for drop-in writing help.  You call their name, and when you sit down together, the student shows you the first draft of a ten-page paper.  You only have twenty-minutes to work with this student.  There are other students waiting for writing help.  There is no way you are going to be able to work on even half of this paper!

 

The solution?  Don’t even try.   That doesn’t mean you make an exception to 20 minute time limit or that you have to send the student packing, but you should be honest with the student, stick to the writing center policies—and be realistic.

 

So what do you do?  Well, I always begin by telling the student what our limitations are and asking what the student would like most to work on.  If the student doesn’t know, or says something generic like, “Can you check my paper?”  I give them a few options.  One option is that I can take 5-10 minutes and read through the whole paper.  I read as quickly as I can, making short notes to myself about content, organization, and support.  I do not try to discuss anything until I have finished the paper.  Then, I look at my notes, and I give the student some broad feedback about my response as reader.  I might offer feedback about whether or not I think the student effectively proved their argument or supported their thesis.  I will refer back to my notes to show the student where their argument was strong and where I thought it needed improvement.  I will show the student spots where I think they need more support for a point or where I think they need to pare down some of the details.  If I notice that the paper needs a lot of work, I don’t even try to talk about everything.  I pick one or two changes that I think will make the biggest improvement.  Another thing I don’t do is talk about grammar or spelling mistakes.  If I notice patterns of lower-order errors, I might mention these to the student, saying, “We don’t have time to work on these now, but you may want to check over your paper or work with another tutor on ___________.”  Finally, I leave the student with two thoughts 1) the paper is not finished yet, and 2) if it is at all possible, they should make an appointment for one-on-one tutoring in a 50 minute session, for more feedback on this paper and for any other ten-page papers they have to write in the future.

 

- Sarah P.


 

 

Comments (3)

Oneckia T. said

at 10:45 pm on Sep 3, 2008

What a way to model calmness in one of the scariest situations a writing consultant may have to encounter. When faced with a ten-page paper in drop-ins, I am sure that it is hard to put aside those initial feelings of panic. Therefore, I commend Paige greatly for the way she handled the situation. Even with so little time she was able to identify the good parts of the paper, inform the student of identified patterns that needed to be edited and suggest what could be done in order to make the essay better. Paige also did not forget to politely but firmly educate the student on what drop-ins were designed for and the importance of making appointments especially with long papers. Five thumbs up.

Kyle said

at 11:13 am on Sep 19, 2008

Brandi's story seems to me the perfect way to deal with a student who comes in with a very long paper and has unreal expectation about our ability to help them. By concentrating on the thesis, first sentences of every paragraph, and the conclusion, Brandi ensured that the major ideas of the paper were addressed. Also by telling him that with a paper of this length an appointment should really be made, will hopefully remind him for next time.

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Nick said

at 9:54 am on Feb 25, 2009

Paige's paper brings up some good points. Fifteen minutes is just too little time to deal with everything in a ten page paper. It's best to focus on the most problematic issues that you can during such a short period of time and then advise the student to make an appointment the next time they have a paper due. This will definitely help me in the future.

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